Fifth Meeting

Fifth Meeting March 15th 1870

Preamble.

The choice of "Political Economy" for discussion may be an early indicator of John Brunner's political aspirations - the "Radical Plutocrat" as Koss describes him. Mond was again absent, most likely reflecting travel trying to sell his sulphur recovery ideas. He had two young children and income must have been uncertain to put it mildly.

Parts of the text were difficult (for me) to read and will be further edited as others suggest their readings.
 

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March 15th 1870

Meeting held at Mr J T Brunner's KaludahTerrace
Present.- J.L Muspratt, E. Carey, W.A.Watts
                J.T.Brunner Hy. Brunner
Words proposed for definition
Political Economy, Religion, Science, Cant [??Sleep?].
Definitions proposed
Political economy is the science of this [land]
which regulates the production and distribution
of the products of human labour & the
government of states.           Onward & upward.
The investigation of the laws regulating the
production, distribution & consumption of the
products of human labour.
                                                   Erin go Bragh
The endeavour to put in practice the laws
which are supposed to foster (in their widest
sense) the [?? ………………??]
                                                    Nemo
The investigation into the laws which govern
the [essential] actions & reactions of [various]
groups of human beings upon each other.
                                                     Palmam qui meruit ferat
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That branch of science, the immediate object
of the pursuit of which is "the greatest happiness
of the greatest number."                Paulatim

Majority definition agreed to
Political economy is the investigation into
the laws which govern the [essential] relations
human beings as citizens.
Paulatim, Erin go Bragh, Onward & upward, [Paulatim]
Nemo objects that Political economy  is the putting
in practice of laws etc.
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Religion is faith into salvation              Nemo
Religion is the [??] which connects [man??] with a
superior being                                     Palmam qui etc
Religion is craving for spiritual good
                                                               Onward & upward
Religion is the craving of the human mind for
supernatural guidance                        Erin go Bragh
Religion is the [???] by human beings to
obtain the assistance of supernatural power
or [power], the [means] being indicated by revelation
[??] supposed [??] [??] the power or powers in
question.                                                 Paulatim

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Majority definition agreed to
Religion is man's reverence for a superior being
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